Now it has to be said I am a fan for Rich Clarke's Too Fat lardies rules, I love the idea of units being inspired by leaders and larger than life characters and it fits with my with my typical gaming style of large scale skirmish.
Over the last 12 months I have been building up forces for the Russo Japanese War and have been using Through Mud & Blood Rich's WW1 Skirmish rules, however the period generates some interesting challenges which feel more at home in earlier periods than the some to be seen horrors of the trenches but 10 years later, one of these was the issue around supply and ammunition it got me thinking about how to apply these in the Rules.
"Calling for more ammo"
Several hours spent on the web brought up some interesting discussions points.
Sir Richard Henagan a commander at Waterloo stated the problem at La Haye Sainte was because
the rifle armed units (95th Rifles) used more ammunition
than anticipated, so when Baring called for more there was no more to
give him.
At Isandlwana during the Zulu Wars the supply issues with the supply wagons being to far back from the firing lines led to the British defeat. We could spend hours debating whether screws in the lids hampered this further.
"Bullets run out but those bloody spears don't"
Clearly as war became more sophisticated so to did supply and rear area
support, reading extracts from commanders within the ACW they were often
forced to withdraw troops from the line in order to resupply.
How many rounds would your average infantryman carry into battle 40 - 60?
So how to apply this to the table top?
I liked the idea of random events with the Shape Practice when more 1's than 6's are rolled, but found the need to reference the separate chart a little cumbersome and honestly forgot more times than remembered to even use it, it's not a rule that carried forward into M&B but was worthy of reintroduction for the RJW. (besides I got to use the character figures often found in blister packs these days.)
So I have incorporated the following in house rule.
Firing.
- When more 1's than 6's were rolled in firing a Low Ammo Counter is applied to the unit (LA).
- A unit can receive an unlimited number of these LA counters.
In the same way a Big Man in M&B can add +1 pip to any single dice for each status level above 1, a defender can now spend the firers LA counters to lower the attack dice reducing any dice by -1 pip for each LA counter spent.
Close Combat.
- When entering into close combat once each side has worked out the number of dice fighting and side with more 1's rolled than 6's would apply the excessive 1's to the unit as LA markers.
"The Russians roll three 6's and five 1's resulting in 3 Japanese being killed but receive 2 LA markers after that round of combat."
I made an assumption that in the heat of melee troops are less likely to worry about ammunition conservation when they are fighting for their lives.
- For each LA point in close combat remove 1 dice, I add this to the deductions after the shock point deductions.
"A Chinese coolie bring supplies up to the front"
Removal of Low Ammo Points.
- Unless spent by the opposition. Bigmen can use their status or command initiative points to remove LA markers as they would with Shock points.
- Alternatively a group with a an activated big man my send a runner for additional supplies losing one figures from the unit but in return removing 2 LA markers.
Supply Units.
I have added in an additional unit type to the Support section, the supply unit may be anything from Chinese coolies, pack mules or horse draw wagons, any activated supply unit with 12" of an Infantry group my deduct 1 LA marker per action.
Supply units are treated like Bigmen for
the purposes of targeting and being destroyed or captured.
Opposing forces may not use each other supply units and once captured can not be recaptured.
I add a supply support unit for every 4 infantry/cavalry groups deployed on table.
The above rules seem to play to the spirit of the TFL rules and
keep book keeping to a minimum, allowing players to trade points limiting hits if you are not properly suppled.
The introduction of supply units make for an interesting mini game as players look
to sneak supplies through to the hard pressed front, bold cavalry
tactics are rewarded by making units unsupplied for whole games as pack mules are chased off.
Besides how else do I get to put these figures on the table.
Feed back and comments welcome.
Chain of Command has a 'system' for certain bits of kits, such as PIATS, where they can only fire 3 shots IIRC before they have to move bag to a 'supply point' to re-stock. Your ideas sound good and the figures are excellent as always.
ReplyDeleteCheers Steve, I guess we were looking for something which recognised the impact of a lessing rounds, originally we only applied it for fire fights but felt that you would blaze away in hand to hand ignoring any fire control - or was it that I was watching Zulu Dawn at the time :-)
DeleteThe supply units brings wagons and limbers into play something I guess us wargamers have all purchased and very often are nothing more than I candy.
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Stu
Really elegant addition (a Saga fatigue vibe), definitely in keeping with TFL. Thanks for sharing.
ReplyDeleteMay pleasure let me no if it works for you.
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Stu
Pretty cool idea.
ReplyDeleteFeel free to test it and let me know if you find any kinks.
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Stu
I love the idea there simple and effective.
ReplyDeletePete it have tried on my VBCW the only change is more 1's than 6's is still a jam for LMG's and the like rather than a marker.
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Stu
Now that's a great idea Stuart.
ReplyDeleteThanks Michael.
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Stuart
Excellent idea and wonderful looking markers. Great work Stuart!
ReplyDeleteThanks Rodger it gives me an excuse to use those non-action figures :-)
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Stu
Interesting idea Stu and you've got me thinking how it may be possible to house rule something for my main gaming system, FoW, especially to counter the current trend towards large art parks. You are right though, keeping it simple is a lot easier!
ReplyDeleteI am looking to do a large FoW scenario over the xmas break, so this may be an idea for then, when 'special rules' are met with less resistance.
Hey Phil, the dice adjustment is a quick way of applying a penalty without the various levels of book keeping usually needed besides it allows me to use up the occasional castings that don't tend to fit regular units.
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Stu
Cool looking figures and sounds like your game will be fun. Best, Dean
ReplyDeleteHere's hoping Dean.
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Stu
Excellent, a great top-notch idea, Stu. I'm definitely going to introduce this in the next game (whenever we get around to it....)
ReplyDeleteIt should work really well for grenade ammunition in the trenches (which could, frequently, run low with dire results for the side without them). Perhaps a separate LA counter for rifled ammunition and another for grenades - or is that, perhaps, getting too complicated? What do you think?
Sidney we did talk about that, trying chits per force involved and sharing them out amongst sections before the game begins, their was a suggestion that if you moved a supply unit to the group you could move the grenade allocations to another sections, but it tended to be lost in the heat of game play.
DeleteAlternatively we added 3 grenades per section but all were lost if they engaged in hand to hand.
Definitely needs more work especially as I have the new warlord releases to adapt for the RJW.
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Stu